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MINUTES OF THE HUNTSVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD ON THE 9TH DAY OF MAY, 1989 IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 1212 AVENUE M IN THE CITY OF HUNTSVILLE, COUNTY OF WALKER, TEXAS AT 6:45 P.M.
The Council met in a regular session with the following members present:
Jane Monday 0. Eugene Barrett City officers present:
Gary Bell James L. Carter Gene Pipes, City Manager
Ila G. Gaines William B. Green Scott Bounds, City Attorney
William L. Hammock Percy Howard, Jr. Ruth DeShaw, City Secretary
William H. Knotts, Jr.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Monday then called the formal session to order. She advised the attending citizen
portion of the agenda will be moved up to accommodate the schedules of the citizens.
Mr. Park advised each year the Kiwanis Clubs conduct fund drives through which they obtain funds to
give to the City Library to sponsor a Reading Is Fundamental (R.I.F.) Program for children (4th graders) who
come to the City Library. He said one of the Club's activities is to attach strings to helium filled
balloons carrying messages. He said the balloons have been found as far away as Florida and Kansas as well
as throughout Texas. He said the Kiwanis Club has already made one $500 donation to the R.I.F. Program. He
then presented a second check, representing the last of their payments this year, in the amount of $300.00
to Ms. Judy Hunter, City Librarian. Mayor Monday expressed the appreciation of the city and of the children
who will be the beneficiaries. Mr. Park noted there are four K Clubs in Huntsville: the Morning, the Moon,
the Key Club at the High School, and the Circle K International at Sam Houston State University.
Mr. Park advised the Mayor has just signed a proclamation for the Kiwanis Clubs designating May
14 -20 as " Kiwanis Prayer Week." He said many teenagers are at work in the community engaged in meaningful
projects, some of which are "Teams for Christ," sponsored by Mrs. Eleanor Diehl, pastor's wife of Calvary
Baptist; the High School Key Club is sponsoring the prayer program prior to the senior prom; and the Circle
K International Club at SHSU is also involved in prayer programs. He said in spite of all the problems with
drugs in our county, we do have a lot of good kids. He said he is proud to accept the proclamation on
behalf of all of the Kiwanians. Mayor Monday expressed the Council's appreciation for the work they do in
the community.
CITIZEN INPUT /INQUIRY SESSION
Mayor Monday then introduced Mr. Dan Phillips who advised his remarks are divided into two segments.
The first is to give the Council some sense for the magnitude of the accomplishment of four Huntsville High
School students: his son, Ian Phillips; Toby Pipes; and Brian and Chris Wood, brothers. He said these
our students tried out in February for the "Texas Soccer Team" which is one of 13 state teams sponsored by
Teams U.S.A., a non - profit organization and part of an international organization for competition in soccer.
e said there will be competition this summer in Holland, Denmark and Sweden for an entire month. He said
he Texas Team will be competing with 659 other teams throughout the world. Mr. Phillips said there were
tryouts in EL Paso, Dallas and Houston for the 28 positions on this Texas Team. Because of the ferocious
ompetition, he said, it is remarkable that four were chosen from Huntsville out of the hundreds who tried
u from around Texas. He said this is a tribute to their skill and the soccer program in Huntsville as
ell as the community's commitment to providing plenty of healthy sports activity, an aggressive arts
rogram, and other activities through the HEAP program in the summer. He said Huntsville has a commitment
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Ito youth and these students are models to other kids in the community. He felt they will certainly be
ambassadors of Huntsville throughout the world.
Mr. Phillips said the second portion of his presentation concerns the fact that none of this is
free. He said it costs $3,000 per player to get them involved in this, noting how difficult it is for one
family budget, and in the case of the two Wood brothers who were chosen, it is even more overwhelming to
provide $6,000 from a single family budget. His statement to the Council was that these four boys have said
not only "no" to smoking, drinking and drugs, but "yes" to a more healthy alternative that represents
everything we are trying to do with youth. He said it is easy to get derailed and "just say no" is a good
concept, but we need to link it up with other things as well. He said these boys represent that. He said
they will also be representing Huntsville on a very impressive level, not only in America, but perhaps in
the world. He said they need help and the support of the city and the council in order to manage this
undertaking. He said three of these boys are going to try to participate, but it won't happen just by
itself. He said any support the city can provide will be appreciated and would be in the interest of the
community.
Mayor Monday congratulated the young men for their outstanding achievement. She noted if there is
any way the city can help the city will so advise. She noted these young men will certainly be very fine
representatives of the City of Huntsville and she hoped they would be able to accept this opportunity.
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING
Verna Banes, 120 Elmwood, Huntsville, 294 -9431
Mrs. Banes' remarks are reproduced below:
"I wish to express my concerns about problems with local cable TV for those who own "CABLE READY TV
SETS." The problems described here did not occur when we were cable subscribers in Austin.
"A Cable Ready set means that a converter box is not needed; but in Huntsville one has to rent and
use one. Also because of the converter box, one is required to use two hand controls - -one to turn on the
set and adjust the volume and the other to change channels. With a Cable Ready set, only one box is needed.
"Taping from a VCR is particularly annoying with the present system.
"To tape on the VCR, the converter box must be set to the channel to which the viewer is watching
the VCR to Channel 4. One can only tape another station if a switch box is purchased for $10.
"With this switchbox, one is then able to use the timer mechanism, provided again that the converter
is tuned to the station one wishes to tape. The VCR again must be set on Channel 4. If one wishes to
two or more cycles of taping (using different channels), that cannot be done.
"Also while taping one channel and watching another, one must then use the TV set hand control to
tch stations - -and thus is not able to get all the channels - -only those of the basic service. All
fusing, to say the least!
"Or if I want to set the timer for a future program, I must then remember to be sure the converter
is tuned to the channel I wish to tape (because the VCR must stay at 4 at all times). If I forget or
one in the family changes the setting, then the wrong program is taped.
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"I have discussed this problem with Mr. Rogers, and he has taught me how to use all these gadgets,
but I find myself very resentful that his company will not provide the service that allows me to use the
cable easily, both for ordinary daily watching and particularly for taping. It is very disappointing that
we are not able to take advantage of the equipment provided by the Cable Ready Set and for full use of the
VCR."
Mrs. Banes suggested the city look into the possibility of changing the franchise with the cable
company to the effect that the cable company would try to provide some of these things for the people in
Huntsville."
Mr. Richard Allen. 1515 15th Street. Huntsville Texas
Mr. Allen said he has two problems with the local cable service, one of which is the length of time
from when one pays one's money up front until the service is begun. He said in some cases, this could be
anywhere from two to three weeks. He said with a $25.00 deposit on the converter box, a $20.00 hook -up fee,
plus the first month's cost, the total is around $60.00 which is tied up for two to three weeks, depending
upon how long it will take them to hook up the service. He said not only is this money now in the hands of
the cable company, and therefore in their bank making money for them, it is also money out of the consumer's
pocket on which they are not deriving benefit during that time. He said the length of time it takes to get
this done is definitely too long. He said he has been in much larger cities where they can have a man there
the same day and pay the man $5.00 and have the set hooked up that evening. He said in a town this size to
wait two to three weeks for a cable hook -up is a bit much.
He said the only other problem he has would be with the lack of variety in programming. He said
basically Channels 3 and 11 are both CBS affiliates, so therefore, on any given night during prime time, one
can watch CBS on one channel and watch CBS on another channel, while in the meantime, programming such as
WGN out of Chicago, WOR out of New York, both quality stations, are not available here, whereas in Houston,
they are. He said he would like to see a little more variety in programming offered and more service. He
said outside of that, the cable system is adequate, however, there does need to be some changes. He said
with a little competition, a new franchise perhaps, we can get something going.
Close the Public hearing and refer the matter to the City Attorney for review and drafting pending formal
action
Mayor Monday then closed the public hearing until such time as the City Attorney has a chance to
visit with the Telecable Company about some of these items and the franchise in general. She said it will
then be brought back for consideration by the Council. The Council concurred with this procedure.
REGULAR SESSION
Mayor Monday then called the regular session to order. Father Joe Limanni of St. Thomas Catholic
Church presented the invocation.
CONSIDER THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
Councilmember Barrett made the motion to approve of the minutes of the Previous meeting of May 2
1989 and Councilmember Howard seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion Passed unanimously.
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CONSIDER BIDS
Mr. Gene Pipes, City Manager, advised three bids were received ranging from the low bid of
17,725.70 to $20,298.85 for this project, which represent very competitive bids. He recommended approval
f the bid from Brazos Valley Utilities in the amount of $17,725.70. Councilmember Howard made the motion
CONSIDER RETIREMENT PROGRAM CONSULTANT
Mr. Pipes, City Manager, presented these bids for the Council's consideration. Mr. Scott Bounds,
ity Attorney, advised two other individuals were contacted for bids, one of which was Rudd- Wisdom, who
eclined the invitation to make a proposal because they do ongoing work for TMRS. He advised Mr. John
cGlothen with Finance Resources Corporation of Austin was invited to submit a proposal. Mr. McGlothen
dvised his fee would be up to $10,000 and they would be interested in entering into a contract on an hourly
asis and would provide a cap with the project; the project itself requiring approximately two to three
Mr. Bounds said he described the work the consultants would be asked to do as follows:
1) to provide the city with a management letter which is written after they have reviewed the
city's current retirement program with Kansas City Life and Lauren B. Stark;
2) to evaluate the reasons why the staff recommends a change in retirement programs; and
3) to evaluate the TMRS retirement system, and detail for the Council, the disadvantages of
TMRS;
4) to examine the ICMA proposal and the minority report from the retirement committee and
detail any problems with that particular program; and
5) to evaluate those programs from two standpoints:
a) from the ultimate retirement benefit the employees would receive; and
b) from the financial cost /control the city, as an entity, would have in those
programs.
inally, Mr. Bounds advised, he did not ask them to make a proposal for a third type of retirement program
r to design a cadillac program for the city, but if they determine there are obvious deficiencies in the
MRS or ICMA programs, they would recommend to the city what vehicle they thought was most appropriate and
live the city a general proposal as to what would need to be done to investigate that type of retirement
vehicle. He said all consultants agreed that generating a management letter seemed to be a workable plan of
action.
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He said the Wyatt Company, T.P.F. & C (Towers Perrin), and Finance Resources Group all have abou
the same cost for this type of work and are all probably qualified. He said the only disclosure he woul
make with regard to their ability is that the Wyatt Company has done work for TMRS but does not have a
ongoing relationship with TMRS; T.P.F. & C. (Towers Perrin) has done work for ICMA -RC and Kansas City Lif
but does not have ongoing work with them. He said the people that would be working on this particula
program, the public retirement consultants, have no direct relationships with either of those plans. H
said since they do not have a relationship with TMRS, they would be well qualified and would have r
conflict of interest. He noted Finance Resources Group of Austin has not represented cities in th
evaluation of their retirement programs. They have provided advice to approximately 65 appraisal district
in the state, but have not represented cities as a specific group in structuring retirement programs, BourK
reported. He said T.P.F. & C. (Towers Perrin) has provided consultant services on retirement plans to tF
city of Houston and some city employee groups and they have specific experience in evaluating retiremer
programs as they relate to cities.
Mr. Bounds advised he has asked TMRS to provide, in writing, a statement regarding the possibilities
of a merger of the city's existing 401 plan with the TMRS system. He said he had asked for this some time
ago because there has been some confusion as to whether a merger is a realistic alternative with the city's
401 plan. He said he has been given verbal indications it is not a realistic possibility, but yet it is, by
statute, a possible alternative. He said he has not yet received a written statement as to their position
on this matter, but expects to have a written statement by Friday as to whether or not a merger between the
401 plan and the TMRS system would be an acceptable alternative to TMRS, whereby the existing plan funds'
would be used to offset the cost of prior service credit to TMRS. Mayor Monday noted this is a question we
can ask our consultant to answer if we can't get an answer from TMRS. Mr. Bounds said he felt TMRS will be
able to answer that as to whether there is a realistic possibility or to at least describe the parameters so
that the Council can decide whether it is realistic or not. Mayor Monday asked that the consultant be asked
to consider whether or not the city's 401 plan allows this. Mr. Bounds said this is what they are to
address. Mayor Monday felt it is important to know how we can terminate the 401 plan as well as how we can
enter the next vehicle. She asked him to be sure we have all the parameters addressed.
Mayor Monday then asked Mr. Bounds for his recommendation. Mr. Bounds said if the Council desires
to proceed with a consultant, he felt T.P.F.& C. (Towers Perrin), which offices in Houston, would be very
qualified to handle the work. He suggested the city start with them because they have not done work or do
not have a working relationship with the TMRS so they should at least be beyond question as far as
objectivity in reviewing that particular retirement system. Secondly, he said, since he does believe
retirement laws of cities are different from those affecting school districts and other public entities, and
since T.P.F. & C. (Towers Perrin) has done work for cities, this would help in the evaluation of the city's
options.
Councilmember Barrett asked if the consultants decide the two retirement programs under
consideration now by this Council are NOT satisfactory, would they charge more money to go into another
search for another retirement system, or would that be included in their proposed price. Mr. Bounds said
they would generally outline for the Council what options they feel might be preferable to the proposals
being made, but as far as preparing specifications or helping in the actual transition from the current
program to that type of program, that would be an additional expense.
In regard to the scope of this study and the full start up costs, Councilmember Hammock asked Mr.
Bounds, regarding buying back the credit for military service, if employees could buy it back by paying
$15.00 a month for service up to 60 months. He said the information in the packet tonight says they can do
exactly that but the city has to match it at the same amount as it would be matching the current
contributions. He said that could be a significant front-end cost to the city depending upon how many
employees it has that this affects and how many choose to buy back that military credit. Mayor Monday felt
we would want a financial analysis all the way through the program. Mr. Bounds said it is his
understanding, with regard to military credits, that it does not affect the city's cost of the program. It
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It generally affect the amount of money that a person retires with, he said, but what it does is simply
it feasible for them to retire at an earlier date.
Councilmember Hammock referred Mr. Bounds to the TMRS adopting ordinance in the agenda packet,
ection 2, which states: "In order to establish credit for military service hereunder, a member must
eposit with the TMRS (in that member's individual account in the Employees Saving Fund), before the first
nniversary of the effective date of this ordinance or before the first anniversary of the date the member
ecomes eligible to establish the credit (whichever is later) an amount equal to the number of months for
hich credit is sought, multiplied by $15.00, and the City must contribute an amount equal to the amount
equired of the member, multiplied by the City's current service matching percentage in effect on the date
he member applies for credit hereunder. The City of Huntsville agrees to pay into its account in the
unicipality Accumulation Fund all sums which become due hereunder as a result of the granting of such
redit."
Mr. Bounds said it is his understanding that there is no cost attributed to the military service
redit. Mayor Monday asked Mr. Bounds to get this defined. Councilmember Hammock felt Section 2 was
lainly stated in that the city will match it two for one. Mayor Monday said the council would like to know
he numbers on this and the potential for that as well as the numbers on all of the other provisions. She
oted this is also what she is hearing the Council say. She then asked the Council for any other questions.
ouncilmember Knotts said he would like to see the city get into a program that would prevent the city from
aving to come back in eight or ten years to change; that the city have an actual full retirement program
hat would be the best for the employees at the lowest cost to the city.
Mayor Monday noted the price range for T.P.F. & C. (Towers Perrin) is from $5,000 to $10,000 and she
sked Mr. Bounds for his recommended procedure. Mr. Bounds noted if the Council budgets the money, they
hen need to authorize the City Manager to contract for up to $7,500 and define the scope of the work in a
etter format and have the consultant agree to the scope of the work, in writing, basically as he has
utlined to the Council, with an hourly fee to be charged, not to exceed $7,500 for the management letter.
r. Bounds said all of the consultants' prices are contingent on an agreement that they only have to come to
he city one time. He said he will provide the information to them at their office and they will come up
fter they have presented a draft of their management letter for the city to review and subsequent to that
hey will come to present the management letter to a committee or a staff group on a Tuesday afternoon and
o the City Council that night. He said only one trip to Huntsville is envisioned. Councilmember Green was
oncerned that this one trip not include the visit to the City Council and that they be here to answer
uestions. Mr. Bounds said that is correct as they will be here on a Tuesday evening.
Councilmember Green then spoke in favor of getting a consultant, noting he has been uncomfortable
bout many aspects of this from the beginning because he has not seen all of the numbers he would like to
ee in terms of payouts to the employees. He felt it is an appropriate step for the city to take at this
oint and that it is a good idea. Mayor Monday asked Councilmember Green to define exactly what he would
ike for the consultants to address. Councilmember Green said Mr. Bounds indicated he would be requesting
n evaluation of benefits as it relates to a particular employee. He did not know how to define this, and
t may very well be that the process ought to be to take more than just a standard employee, perhaps several
ifferent ones of various lengths of service and various salary ranges to the extent that length of service
nd those things matter in determining the benefits. Councilmember Knotts said it is probably based more on
he average age of the employees. Councilmember Green said it is difficult to know exactly what the formula
s for the various options of the employee. He said as he understands it, there are six options from which
he employee can choose and he would like to see how those are compared with the others; noting he would
ike to see those options compared with at least the options available under the ICMA plan. Mayor Monday
oted along with this we will need to know the cost to the city. Councilmember Green said this may not vary
uch as there is a lower vesting period with ICMA, and so for the short term employee, there will be some
ifference. City Attorney, Scott Bounds, advised the consultant can address this generally and can describe
he differences.
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Councilmember Gaines was concerned that an overall picture would not be achieved by only evaluating
a few employees because of the many variations and variables concerning salaries, years of service, age,
etc., and with 200 plus employees, she could not see how this could be done accurately. Councilmember Green
felt a few comparisons will show if there are some inconsistencies, and at that point the consultant can go
beyond that, but if there is a consistent pattern, then he would really not need to continue. He said a
sample generally is a good tool to determine the whole.
Councilmember Barrett said he would like an overall view and while we already have this and he hates
to spend the money, if the questions as answered are still being questioned, he can understand why we should
have this study. He didn't see that we were going to get that much out of the money that we will be
spending if we are not going to bring a new source in and are just going over the two that we've already
had, which we have gone over in some detail.
Mayor Monday asked for any other comments. There being none, she then asked for a motion to approve
the hiring of a consultant. Councilmember Bell made the motion to authorize the City Manager to contract
with a consultant, namely T.P.R. & C (Towers Perrin) and Councilmember Knotts seconded the motion All were
in favor and the motion Passed unanimously. Mayor Monday noted there is a cap of $7,500 on this
consultant's work. She asked the City Manager to get back with the Council with the details and when this
may be ready for review.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT - -GENE PIPES
Highway 19 Association Meeting in Athens
Mr. Pipes advised a group from Huntsville, consisting of Walker County Judge Frank Robinson, County
Commissioners Buddy Reynolds and Joe Malak, the County's engineering consultant, Mr. Jerry Nemec, and Mr.
and Mrs. Randle, accompanied Mayor Pro tem Howard, Mayor Monday and himself to Athens today to attend the
annual meeting of the Highway 19 Association. He said the meeting was well attended and included some 44
people. The mantle of leadership was transferred from Mr. David Glass as President to Mr. Tom Randle of
Huntsville as President, Mr. Pipes reported. Mr. Glass served as the initial President of the New
Association for the first year and was instrumental in reactivating the Association and in promoting the
presentation to the Texas Highway Commission in November, which presentation requested support of the
Highway 19 Association's proposal to extend and widen Highway 19 to a four lane divided highway from
Huntsville to Paris and into Oklahoma, hooking onto the Indian Toll Road and then into Tulsa and up into
Chicago. It was noted this is by far the most direct, and therefore, the least expensive route for trucking
coming from the Midwest agricultural and industrial centers to the Texas port. He said this program was set
in motion a year ago by the creation of the Association. Other officers for the past year have been the
First Vice President, Mr. Bill McCool, Mayor pro tem of Sulphur Springs; the Second Vice President, the
Mayor of Athens, Mr. E. Herbert Gatlin, Jr.; and the City Manager of Sulphur Springs, Mr. Jack Dickerson, as
Secretary. The Council was advised Mr. Gene Pipes was nominated and elected as Secretary for this year.
Mr. Pipes said membership in the Association is $25.00 a year. He said the progress so far is very
encouraging. It was noted this is the 25th year of the original Highway 19 Association. He said 23 years
ago the Association was very active, however, this is the second year of the new association.
Theo Whiteside and Mark Hines City Employees Recognized
Mr. Pipes recognized Mr. Hines and Mr. Whiteside, who were in the audience, for playing basketball
against the Houston Oilers for a benefit game to benefit the Good Shepherd Mission through the OYM, "Open
Your Mind," a youth - oriented group promoting service. He said some 200 people attended the benefit game.
Mayor pro tem Howard presented the invocation prior to the game, Pipes reported.
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MAYOR'S REPORT - -JANE MONDAY
Mayor Monday expressed her appreciation to Mr. Pipes for serving as Secretary to the Highway 19
ociation and to Mayor Pro tem Howard for accompanying them on this trip. She said this is a very major
ject for the City of Huntsville and one on which it would like to have the official commitment of the
Mayor Monday advised H-GAC contacted the city about two to three weeks ago and then later visited
ith her. She said at that time they had been reviewing their overall area for economic development. She
aid Huntsville and Walker County have never been able to qualify for these particular funds because of a
umber of factors in the formula, but primarily because it has a low unemployment rate. She said upon
-GAC's review, it came to their attention that one way it may be qualified is by designating this area as a
Redevelopment Center" in the ETJ and that would qualify Huntsville to make application for those funds to
e used for economic development. She said H -GAC took this back to their board, who recommended this be
one for Huntsville as well as Pasadena and Rosenberg. She said H -GAC has 13 counties in their planning
rea and all 12 counties have adopted this and all 12 counties qualify and this has been done for a number
f years. She said this is the only way they see to get these funds for Walker County. She said she did
sk if corridors could be run out to New Waverly and Riverside but they were not able to do that, but they
ere able to do it in the city's ETJ. She asked the Council for their approval for her to send a letter to
he Economic Development Administration, U. S. Department of Commerce requesting Huntsville's consideration
s an "Economic Development Center." The Council indicated their approval.
Mayor Monday advised she had an opportunity to visit with Mr. Dennis Singletary, Local Manager of
5U this week to express her concern about the downtown and getting the light poles off the Square. She
aid he has contacted her to advise he and his engineering staff would like to took at this project along
ith the city's engineering staff. She asked for the Council's concurrence to proceed with this meeting to
nalyze the situation to see what can be done. The Council expressed their approval.
Mayor Monday advised on Monday she issued a proclamation in recognition of the "National 75th
iversary of Cooperative Extension System Day" for the Walker County Agent's office. She advised the
my Agents held a public open house at the Courthouse on Monday in commemoration.
Mayor Monday advised a supplementary item was posted for an Executive Session to consider a real
tate acquisition on Hickory Drive. This meeting will be held after the formal session, she noted, and was
sted at 6:45 P.M. today.
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COUNCIL ACTION
Drainage Problems
Councitmember Carter advised because of the big rain the City experienced recently, a perfect
example of the city's drainage problem has surfaced. He said behind the Criminal Justice Center on 16th
Street, the city had a large section of the new street washed out because of the University's lack of
attention to drainage in the city. He said he would attribute the wash out to this fact as he feels it was
a rather direct result of the runoff as it occurred at the edge of the campus where the University created
more concrete and a shoot to focus the water down onto that new street. He encouraged the Council to go by
to see the patch the city had to put in there, pointing out it was an additional cost to the city to patch
this new street. He asked Mr. Pipes what the costs were.
Mr. Pipes said he was not aware of the costs, but agreed the washout was a result of the runoff of
Last Friday's rain, which cut out about a 20' x 20' square of 16th Street at Avenue 1. He said the force of
the water was great enough to actually strip the overlays loose from the original concrete street, not only
the most recent overlay, but all of the overlays. Mayor Monday advised that Mr. Pipes is in the process of
meeting with SHSU officials regarding these concerns. Councilmember Carter noted he is aware these meetings
are in progress, but noted 11. . . public office gives you a public forum to talk about public problems.,,
Agenda Reauest--Tree Appraiser
Councilmember Carter requested that the city place on the agenda for May 16, a presentation by a
tree appraiser to tell the City Council about how one determines the economic value of trees and to present
some examples of the value of trees within the city. He noted he would appreciate the inclusion of this
item on this agenda.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Council then recessed into Executive Session to consider a real estate acquisition on Hickory
Drive. No formal action was taken and the Council did not reconvene.
ADJOURNMENT
Respectfully submitted,
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4h u DeShaw, City Secretary
May 9, 1989